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By: Anatoly Pisarenko

I'm way late on this, but for anyone interested, I just happened to find a link that I was searching for when I made this FPP, but couldn't locate. There are some totally awesome old-school clean and...

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By: P.o.B.

It's off the coronal or frontal plane and I'm not talking about the layback. The elbows naturally push forward while doing overhead stuff so it's kind of moot point we're going back and forth on but...

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By: Anatoly Pisarenko

Well, those pictures, as well as the videos in the FPP, are demonstrating significant layback, which is a major part of the Olympic-style press. As Starr describes in the article, it's this layback...

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By: restless_nomad

Oh, I read that as 30 degrees off the vertical, in which case Anatoly is right, there's no way to safely support the weight.

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By: P.o.B.

I think you're misunderstanding. The elbows should be pointing 30 degrees or more forward throughout the movement, the lockout at the top is a different matter. Both of your YT links, Redding and...

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By: Anatoly Pisarenko

"Overhead movements" is a very broad category. Behind-the-neck presses, for example, seem to be pretty much universally condemned, including by Starr in the Olympic Press article from the FPP. To say...

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By: P.o.B.

So for most people, most of the time, the Overhead Press should be (a) regular part of their weight training routin(e as long as it's done correctly.)

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By: P.o.B.

Let's not get the wires crossed here. It's an undeniable fact that overhead movements cause impingement. It is. There's no arguing that. Even if you got a qoute from Jesus talking about how his dad...

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By: Anatoly Pisarenko

docpops, I think you are missing some of the finer points of pressing mechanics and vastly exaggerating the risk of injury. From Mark Rippetoe: The term "active shoulder" has been used to describe what...

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By: indubitable

As others have said, I love the feeling of doing overhead presses. It's the one time of the week when I feel like a "real" weight-lifter. I've so far converted at least three other women to trying...

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By: ersatz

I'm repeating this often-told story because it fits so perfectly. Norb Schemansky was approached by an eager fan and asked, "How do I get my press stronger?" Ski replied, "Press." I'm using this as an...

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By: docpops

Well, I run and lift five days a week every morning before work at 5:30 and encourage all my patients to do the same. As I tell someone at least once a day, exercise will fix or prevent everything we...

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By: lollusc

As others have said, I love the feeling of doing overhead presses. It's the one time of the week when I feel like a "real" weight-lifter. I've so far converted at least three other women to trying...

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By: swashedbuckles

I'm not familiar with the epi of weight training injuries, but I hold out the possibility that some activities carry more risk than others. As far as I've read, weight lifting is one of the safest...

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By: P.o.B.

Foolishness? That's just plain idiocy. Swiss balls are useful, but they're also great for blowing out ACLs.

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By: leotrotsky

Anatoly: That photo is absolutely jaw-dropping. Why doesn't it surprise me that there's a couple of leg press machines in the background?

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By: Anatoly Pisarenko

I wish this went without saying, but: any physical activity strenuous enough to cause an adaptation also carries with it a risk for injury, from running, to playing tennis, to lifting; however, one...

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By: Civil_Disobedient

it seems to me like putting that much extra weight above your spinal column can't be great for your back in the long run Do you think it's any better to hold an extremely heavy bar directly over your...

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By: a robot made out of meat

I, an able-bodied young man in the prime of his life Thank you, this is exactly the alternative to not engaging to particular lifts which might be damaging to joints or the spine. I'm not familiar with...

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By: indubitable

I don't know about docpops, but it seems to me like putting that much extra weight above your spinal column can't be great for your back in the long run. People who carry more body weight on their...

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